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Sunday, November 29, 2009

Hip hop on youth of america?

'Swagger'= a false sense of confidence borught about by a projected facade of wealth.

SWAGGER, I'M SO TIRED OF THIS PHRASE. EVERY SHOW ON TV I TURN ON THAT HAS SOMETIHNG TO DO WITH HIP HOP THIS PHRASE SWAGGER KEEPS COMING UP. I WATCHED THAT THAT FRAUD *** TOP TEN RAPPERS IN THE GAME SHOW ON MTV AND HALF THE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST WERE ON THERE BECAUSE OF THERE SWAGGER CUZZ I KNOW IT COULDNT BE THERE LYRICS. YOUNG JEEZY KNOCKED NAS OFF THE LIST COME ON HIP HOP WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO LIKING A MC BECAUSE OF THERE LYRICS. I GUESS THAT ERA IS OVER. OKAY YOU MIGHT HAVE SWAGGER BUT REALLY THAT ONLY PROMISES YOU 1 TO 2 YEARS IN THE GAME AT TOPS. THERES NO WAY I'M GONNA START DRESSING IN YOUNG *** CLOTHES AND ROCK A MOHAWK JUST SO YOU'LL BUY MY ALBUM. ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. HIP HOP WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY, WE WENT FROM BLACK GIRL LOST, TO POP LOCK IT DROP. WE WENT FROM ILLMATIC TO HUSTLENOMICS, WHAT ARE WE TEACHING THE KIDS WITH THIS ****. I'AM SURE ALOT OF THESE

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i feel ya on this one. all the good mc have been kept underground

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i feel like i should you tell you to calm down, or turn off your caps lock at least
Hip-Hop is bein attacked by alotta people rite now. IF U DONT LIKE WAT HIP-HOP TALKS BOUT, DEN DONT LISTEN TO IT! If u dont wanna see sum fine dimes on tha videos, den don't watch dem. Im tired of people *********-i-n bout hip-hop, DO NOT LISTEN TO RAP IF U AINT TRYNNA HEAR WAT IT TALKIN BOUT...is dat so hard to figure out!??

Does hip hop still have a future?

I remember when hip hop was about having fun and battling skills with one another on the microphone, now its all gangsta rap, put two slugs dead in that fools chest, or big booty, and so much profanity. Can we ever go back to the real essence of what hip hop use to be or is this it? Why do you need to be shot 9 times to make it in the hip hop business? Why is this business so dangerous with Biggy and Tupac being shot over some bs, what has hip hop come to these days? What do you think?

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it is growing

there are no more biggies and 2pacs but there are a lot of nice young artists. Its not getting the coverage it once had since there are alot of haters to the game who listen to crap like rock. It has been getting less dangerous since the murder rap is dying down.

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not sure
I dont know but I know hardcore rock does! go to www.martyrsprayer.com for more info
its just like youve said. its dead. its become to dangerous anymore. i used to live in santa cruz. people there live by it. but maybe itll come back. i remember rap in the 90's. it was nothing compared to what it is now. it was a lot better then. now its a bunch of fags shooting people. im not a hater on rap, but it sucks now. i want to hear 80's and 90's rap. some old school **** man.
I agree with you and i wish that someday it will go back to what it used to be, not shooting up people or how big their chain is.
yes it does no doubt
Well, I like these groups and they have a hip hop feel.

Gym Class Heroes, they have a cool sound and rap about other crap rather than sex, drugs, and shooting each other, or Jurassic 5. But I guess its what sound you like.

Hip-hop Shoes!?

Hey guys.

There are many styles out there and my current style interestst is in hip-hop. Shoes like Nike are pretty expensive,as you know. A nice pair goes around $80.

So, is there any website that sells shoes that look like hip-hop kind of shoes for at least $40 and under?

Thanks.

Also, if you dress ghetto or in a hip-hop fashion, tell me what you would usually wear and how you would wear it. Thanks.

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Don't dress in "ghetto fashion" I don't dress like that, dress conservatively, you should consider it as well, it shows that you think highly of yourself, and no, it doesn't make you look like a nerd.

Ghetto clothes look dumb, period. It doesn't matter what your skin color is, or what you look like.

I might sound like an old guy, but I am actually 20 years old, and I am also a big believer in school uniforms.

Hip Hop Lover. What would you recommend?

Please recommend hip hop songs and hip hop artists!! I want my hip hop collection to grow.

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Wu-Tang clan ain't nuttin' ta f*** wit

GZA's Liquid Swords album (not to be confused with Legend of Liquid Swords) is one of the best in Hip-Hop. "Heavy Mental" by Killah Priest is great. Can't go wrong with KRS-ONE. If you have old-schoolish tastes you'll like those. Otherwise, might be too deep for you.

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Gotta love Three 6 Mafia
Missy Elliot,Gwen Stefani,Fergie,

Piff Diddy,Fifty cents,etc..
Britney Spears!!! WOOOO HOOOO
oh please those previous answers were a joke, it your talking about true hip hop artists then you need to get some Nas and Common and also throw in Talib Kwali and The Roots.
I reccomend u listen to 2pac, Notorious BIG, Snoop Dogg, Three 6 Mafia, Joe Budden, Lil' Flip, Memphis Bleek, Cam'Ron, Eminem, Dr. Dre, The Game.... whew! there are a lot in this list. If u really want to be a true hip-hop lover, do not listen to alot of the mainstream sellouts. look for rappers u never even heard of.
Talib Kweli, Common, fugees, jay z 4sho but thats a givin, biggy...old schools hot, go back in the day mid-late 90's was the best $hit to me. also lupe fiasco, mos def, dj screw got legendary songs, kanye it depends what your into but 4sho check them out especially common

Most of the best songs from these artist were never hits at all especially jay z..... go over the cd you will be surprised at what you find
Talib Kweli, The Roots, Atmosphere, Ras Kass, Outkast (before Stankonia). Common, Eightball %26amp; MJG,The Coup, E-40, Souls of Mischief, Living Legends, People Under The Stairs, Alkaholiks, Wu-Tang Clan, Mos Def...
What kind of hip hop? You can always start your collection off with Jay Z, Nas, Rakim, Doug Fresh, McLyte, LL Cool J, Biggie, Tupac, Big Daddy Kane, Heavy D, Salt %26amp; Pepper,and much more to many to name, but this was before hip hop became about food and body parts. Please do not get 36 Mafia they worship the devil.
Chamillionaire Ft Krayzie Bone - Ridin' Dirty

Lloyd ft Lil Wayne - Want You

Lil Fizz ft. Missez - Fluid

Kanye West feat Lupe Fiasco - Touch The Sky

Kanye West ft Jamie Foxx - Gold Digger

J-Kwon feat Murphy Lizle %26amp; Chingy - Tipsy Remix

Busta Rhymes - Touch It

Akon Feat. Eminem - Smack That

Akon - Ghetto

Young Rome feat Marques Houston - Sexapade

Ying Yang Twins - Salt Shaker

Young Joc Ft Nitti - It's Going Down

Snoop Dogg ft R Kelly - Thats That
devin tha dude, master p.,ludacris, lil jon, ying yang twins,lil boosie, dj unk, t.i., twista, pastor troys face off album, akons konvicted album, mary j. blige, bone thugs n harmony, dirty boys, boyz n tha hood, lil wayne, big tymers,mystical, young dro, young jock,trina, tupac, dr.dre,eminem,50cent,missy, foxy brown, lil kim, kyia, notorious b.i.g., jz,.
If your looking for something that isn"t mainstream then check out the artists from the boot camp clik... buckshot, cocoa brovas(smiff n wesson), sean price, etc. They were kinda big in the mid 90's. very raw - straight up beats and rhymes

Hip Hop is getting treated unfairly?

First, most people like to start by blaming hip hop for degrading women. Oh my gosh, who do you think sign themselves up for these videos. If you want to blame anybody for being degraded, blame these women. Example, The Game,

video "Wouldn't Get Far". He is putting down these women and they are singing along with him in the video. Second, if you don't know all hip hop, then you can't judge it as a whole. Nobody doens't want to blame the record industry for not wanting to put out variety of hip hop. They put out the candy hip hop because nowadays most people like to party, so they are putting out cd's that work for the clubgoers. I think coming down on hip hop after this whole Don Imus thing was really stupid. The man was wrong. I don't think most black women would let any man of any race directly call them a "nappy headed ho". Get it right. Most important, black women don't even rule the music video, every other race do.

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Every genre of music gets treated unfairly. I remember how much grief heavy metal got during the mid 80's. Rap in the 90's and so on. If people didn't have something to complain about, they'd die of boredom I guess.

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Pipe down!
Most of the Hip Hop or Urban or whatever it's called these days that I've heard puts down women and figures of authority. I don't recall Heavy Metal or even the underground English stuff ever doing that. Also, they use words and terms in Hip Hop that the rest of the ethnicities aren't allowed to use because they're degrading or prejudicial then they get all hot and bothered when someone else uses those same terms.

IMO, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If the popular Hip Hop artists refer to their own ethnicity with certain terms then so can the rest of the world.
I agree with Sporrega... Pointing out the problems with Hip Hop and any other urban music doesn't let Don Imus off the hook. It just brings some very important issues to the forefront. If people of any race won't treat their own women with respect, how can they expect everybody else to? And while you're correct that black women don't rule video, I'll bet that if every black woman refused to buy that trash, and refused to condone their men buying it, things would change. It's all about the money, and as long as people buy garbage, garbage will be produced.
I don't know what you mean by "unfairly" since hip-hop is all the rage these days (at least in Brazil) but you have to admit, it IS rather detestable.
The problem is that hip hop has lost the passion it once had. Rappers or Wannabe Artist really aren't that talented with all the nonsene they talk about and the way they just sample other music, it's ridiculous. Hippty Hop will be dead soon I hope because it really sucks and the Homies can't figure out the ENGLISH language so they use the N word and all of the other IGNORANT words to get their music played. THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WHEN THE HIP HOP DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

Hip-hop or rap?

which do you choose as your favorite: rap or hip-hop. i know that hip-hop is also a culture, but its also a musical style. i perfer hip-hop, espiecially old school. because i mostly listen to punk and there are direct correlations. rap sounds like some guy talking really fast then a chorus that sums up the entire meaning of the song. my question is: which do you perfer?

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nether because i like rock but so hip hop!

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Hip Hop!
hip hop... new school
Hip Hop music of the conscious kind. The "real" rap.
rap lol !:-)
i lyk both
no, i'd do that old-school rap my friend!!! word!!
hip hop for sure especially the old school
hip hop.
hip-hop
Rock and roll is here to stay, it will never die.
hip - hop.
I like hip hop
ummm both are crap.

Listen to good music, not that junk.
hip-hop
Hip-hop
I dont really like either, but i do like Biggy %26amp; Mystikal a lot.
hip-hop
I agree with you kiddo, I think they both suck but if i had to choose i would choose hip hop because rap isjust some dude talking fast.
if its christian rap, then rap. i only listen to christian so ya
rock and roll man!!!
Old school hip-hop is awesome!
Definitely disco! ...."Boogie fever, we're gonna'boogie down"!!!!!!
rap is generally associated as "old school." hip-hop is more conventional and modern. I prefer some hip hop and some rap. majority suck though, just out looking to make a quick buck and disappear.
both i like all dif kinds of music
polka!
both
Both are the greatest genres in existence but i wuz down 2 rap or hip hop

i wud say rap
I dont really get the difference, I always thought rap was a part or type of hip-hop, like how alternative is a type of rock'n roll music.
i prefer punk:)
you are aware they're the same thing.

it doesn't matter, anyway. LONG LIVE ROCK+ROLL!!%26gt;:)

Would you consider rap/hip hop the new pop?

There have been a few questions about hip pop? What is real hip hop, what rappers are considered hip pop and who's not? Imo hip hop culture as a whole is the new POP? POP is what it is...meaning POPULAR...(For example I consider JayZ's a pop artist and a lot more of ur respected rappers are)... But face it HIP HOP is every where. It may not be in the fashion that we would like to see it... BUT its a billion dollar industry...Its influence is world wide...Look at ur TV and listen to the commericals on the radio...HIP HOP CULTURE is selling everything...Whether its Flo rida or Talib Kweli(as a more respectable) is being played on not only the so called HIP HOP R%26amp;B stations but also on the HITS stations too. Even the slang is showing up in the dictionary...smh but lmao at the same time.

Face it rappers are even more wealthier/and business savvy then your average ROCK star.

Thats my opinion but what do yall think

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You are right.

Pop means popular . Any music that appears in the chart technically is pop music.

It does not quite sound right to say that it is pop but it is.

pop is not a category of music though, it just means that the music is popular . therefore pop music generally belongs to a genre and so hip hop is still hip hop but it just happens to be popular at the moment.

If there is any doubt that it is popular , check out the youtube top videos of all time , many are hip hop.

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i go oldskool hiphop
no i consider pop the new disco....itll die out in ....3.......2.......1.......
so ignore them. listen to artists who keep it real.
all pop is is whats popular at this time. its not a certain type of music its just what ever most people are listening to.
i guess it's popular everywhere, but i still wouldn't refer to the music as pop...and i wouldn't consider artists such as florida, soulja boy, UNk etc. as rappers...juss pop artists

and what in the hell?...new avatar???....you askin a question???

what is this???
I agree with Shelltoe....It's what's most popular. And I do not think rappers are more wealthier than rockers...Rockers just don't spend it all on "bling" to show it off. SP
Yes its so obvious that these hip-hop, rappers are trying to go pop!

example Mary J. Blige has been known as the "Queen of hIP-Hop Soul" but when she came out with hust fine it was to target a mainstream audience. all rappers are pop because of there lyrical content except Jay because he a real as ****a.

but say what you want and I agree with you to a certain level.
The game got twisted when the south came up. Down south strip clubs are more prevelant and music makers made music for the club. The focus was on beats and bass rather than lyrics. So now you got strip club rappers with terrible lyrics and dope booty shaking beats going platinum. The result is an overall moral breakdown in how young folks view women. These rappers are rapping about strippers but the publics sees it as a blanket statement for all women.

Hip-Hop as a culture was originally a way to express what was going on in the places that had no voice. Like Jazz and blues did in it's hay day. Now money, and greed have taken that away.

Talib is hip hop, DJ Unc is a talent less strip club rapper. Common is hip hop, Lil John is a booty beat maker. That's a whole different class I don't consider hip hop.
Well, No.

i consider rap/hip hop ..well. rap%26amp; hiphop. haha

Its a different time period ..so therefore different music is popular.

when pop was popular, was it the new rock?

When rock was popular, was it the new jazz?

No.
well..I still stand by my "no hip pop" phrase, but I'm not really that sure what it means anyway..lol
You know even back in the start Hip Hop had an element of Pop and to be honest some Pop music moreso through the 80's was actually Good Music. Unfortunately in the 90's and now in the 2000's it has lost its appeal to me but at the same time so had Commercial Hip Hop and other Music. I think as we get older our tastes diversify. We find the niches in Music that appeal to our senses. I think you're right that Rap/Hip Hop is the new pop as you see people like Justin Timberlake %26amp; Britney Spears incorporating it into the feel of their Music.

It was probably towards the late 90's that I noticed that most of the Top 10 consisted of Hip Hop/RnB tracks something that was unheard of in the 80's and when I was in school it was rare to be the Hip Hop fan in your class nowadays it's rarer to be the Rock fan.
no

but the average rock star is more talented than the best rapper

Hip Hop Culture - The Uncle Tom dilemma?

I am a white man, but having had many black friends throughout my life, I have noticed a problem that many black people seem to face that is rarely discussed. We all know that black people face oppression and prejudice from certain white people, but it is also undeniable that the way many black people portray themselves in popular culture (music, film, etc.) has had a negative effect on poor inner city black people in recent years. As hip hop (not all-hip hop) culture has continued to glorify street crime, promote promiscuity, promote self-promotion, and to place excessive value on material wealth, poor inner-city black people have found themselves moving backwards on the social ladder rather than forward. However, when any black person dares to call out hip hop culture for its’ negative message, they are immediately called an “Uncle Tom.” Bill Cosby, one of the great men of our time, has been one of the few black men to dare speak about this, and even he has been called an Uncle Tom. Do you think any other prominent black people will join Mr. Cosby in calling out hip hop culture, or will hip hop continue on its’ path to becoming black people’s new worst enemy.

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I love hip-hop music, but I a smart enough to know that what you see in videos is just a facade. They often rent vehicles and women for the day to put in the video. Those nice houses you see them in they struggle to make the payments on when they could have bought it cash before blowing the money on other stuff. Since they never tell kids to do well in school, most black males tend to look at rappers' lifestyles and want to have it. They sit there and ignore school because you don't need good grades to be a rapper.

I am so fed up with it that I almost wish that they would ban it. Someone, anyone. It is destroying an already hurting black culture. I said this to someone before and they told me that I didn't like black people. I have always loved my people which is why I hate to see them in the state they are in.

There is so much wrong with a kid valuing a Hummer with rims more than an education.

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Most black people are hard working everyday people who want the same as everyone. A decent life and a better one for their children. The rub is that the stereotype is almost impossible to break while you have negative actions practiced almost excursively by blacks. Hip Hop/portraying violence, drugs, abuse of women and even the role models themselves are lowlife criminals. Drive bys and single parent homes have become their claim to fame. Bill Cosby is right but the message is being ignored. Sad really.
I'm sorry but I have a problem with this. First of all, the dude who said most black males want the lifestyle they see in videos is way off base. I'm white and I know this is a gross generalization. Also, Bill Cosby was called an Uncle Tom because he simply ranted to people who already know what the problems are. He provided no solutions. He is a Uncle Tom because he's not action oriented. People like Oprah Winfrey and the BET lady are. I don't think Hip Hop is the problem holding the poor black community back. This was demonstrated by the slow governmental action during the Katrina disaster. The problems are systemic, not about a genre of music. Trust me, Hip Hop culture has more influence in the young white community than it does in the black community.
First to the person calling Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom %26amp; not providing answers: He most certainly did provide answers and guidance. What he didn't do was provide another useless government program. He said what the problem was and the solution is for people to stop acting as if the world owes them something and act as RESPONSIBLE adults.

There are many other Blacks that do speak out but are either ignored or attacked by the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, %26amp; Al Sharpton. A good example is Alan Keyes. Perpetuating the victim mentallity is big business and without it the so-called civil rights leaders have no power.

After all of the civil rights victories, what have minority leaders done to promote education, responsibility, and hard work? Nothing.
you know , the gay community also has its uncle toms . but to get to your question , yeah , the messege in rap is poisonous . sometimes I wonder if the raps are written by white racists who pay the blacks to sing em and dance around . Malcolm X would have called em idiots .

What makes hip hop real hop hop?

I mean, as far as everyone knows all rappers are fake and have never done anything 'gangsta' in their life. They all say they shoot people, have unprotected sex with numerous women, got shot, sell drugs, have a bunch of haters. Aside from the last claim, no one knows for sure if they are lying or not. And why do people say hip hop is dead? I mean every rapper is basically saying the same thing. And isn't hip hop supposed to reflect urban culture and gangsta culture? I mean, "gangstas" shoot people, get shot, have alotta sex, and go to clubs and do dances that consist of snapping fingers and shifting their bodies very slightly. East coast got the whole "ladies love them" thing going, West coast seems to have the whole "I will shoot any and everybody" thing going and the south has the whole "look at the easy dance as I snap my fingers and do some step" I mean, I like hip hop from when it started out to now, I just don't get why some hip hop is "real" and the rest is "fake"

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Being true to yourself and not changing for nobody. Snoop is real hip hop because he lives what he talks about , Talib Kweli is real hip hop because he expresses himself well , Kanye West is real hip hop because he talks about what he believes in.

What makes hip hop is variety. And we need to have the LL COOL J , the Common's , the 50 cent gangsta thing and the Kanye West.

People who say hip hop is real and not fake i think they are not to judge. Rappers are poets/reporters/entertainers and as long as they are being true to themselves fully then thats real hiphop.

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To make hip-hop real hip hop it's not suppose to be talkin' bout hoes ,drugs,talkin' bout how much *** dey had (etc) and is suppose to be talkin' about what they went threw in their hood(s/t) of just one that makes u dance!!!!!!!!
Wow, you are very passionate about this, I see. Why don't you write a song about it!
the lyrical content and delivery makes the difference between real hip-hop and fake hip-hop.
I thought hip-hop was supposed to be telling TRUE life experiences. No one that is extremely popular is doing that anymore. Killing people, becoming intoxicated, having numerous sex partners, bragging on your possessions, putting your existence above anything and everything? And all the while glamorizing it like its cute? C'mon. I'm not putting money in anyone's pocket for that nonsense. Hip-hop is supposed to tell the truth, not create some bogus fairytale.
It's sort of difficult to answer this because it makes you wonder what exactly is hip hop. Hears my opinion: First and foremost, be lyrical. A hip hop artist should be able to flow. You see so many people coming out with all these dance songs it kind of makes you wonder does real hip hop still exist. Rapping about real life experince is also so a key roll in hip hop. So many rappers also ways talk about how rich they are, how many girls they have, and who they shot up the other day but they not living non of the stuff they spitting on the mic. It sort of sad becuase it seems like people will rap about anything or order to sell a record.
i agree wit snickers, these young cats comin into the game are not talkin about true life, instead they're talkin about the money, the girls, the cars; all the material items..where is the heart? the emotion?....i dont like how you categorized the topics of hip hop by region, there are a few artists from the south makin music because its what they love to do and not because they're tryin to get some radio play by making up a dance...REAL hip hop moves people; not literally, but it speaks to them through their lyrics, in REAL hip hop; the lyrics have a meaning....dudes today are sellin their souls for riches....thats not real hip hop, and some of the stuff you said just makes you seem like a casual hip hop listener: "They all say they shoot people, have unprotected sex with numerous women, got shot, sell drugs"..... that's ignorance at its finest

"And why do people say hip hop is dead? I mean every rapper is basically saying the same thing"

-You just answered your own question; where is the originality in rappers speaking the same things in all of their songs?

" I mean, "gangstas" shoot people, get shot, have alotta sex, and go to clubs and do dances that consist of snapping fingers and shifting their bodies very slightly"

-thats such a vague statement; all gangstas dont shoot people, all gangstas dont get shot, all gangstas dont have alotta sex (let alone any), and how many real gangstas do you know go to clubs doin this finger snappin? stop believin everything you see or hear on t.v.

hip hop is a culture within itself, it doesnt "reflect" gangsta lifestyles.
I guess what makes hip hop real is when they talk about whats going on in their life. Like all the good times and the bad times. For example growing up in the hood and have to deal with people who sells drugs and everyday somebody is getting shot.
when it has a good beat
the factors that decide this complicated situation are as following::

A.) The songs have to degrade women AT LEAST twice

B.) The songs have to use a cuss word AT LEAST 10 times

C.) The songs have to include the n word AT LEAST once

D.) The songs have to mention bein' IN DA club!

E.) The songs have to suck
REAL hip-hop comes from the heart. It talks about the truth and nothing but the truth. Canibus and 2pac are legends in rap because they're lyrics come from the heart, possibly from past experiences. 2pacs song Dear Mama is probably how life was when he was younger. Canibus talks about the Library of Alexandria and scientific stuff. Basically real hip-hop is hip-hop that has meaning and has lyrics that aren't like "ay bay bay" or "so hot in the club i ain't got no shoes on." REAL hip-hop lyrics are like this:

Canibus, "The best of Bis orbitally rearanged

Mono atomic elements, with a deft intelligence

The highest professorship, my English etiquette

compels me to not say it if I can't spell it b**ch

My circularised 3rd Eye, sees all

Atlantis was surrounded by 4 sea walls

I read one-fourth of the Library of Alexandria

before it was burnt to the floor

I wish I could've learned more

about the shapes of the sacred geometry they used to draw

They were new millennium but Euclidian in form

ancient in many ways but not nearly as old

Carved from Egyptian gold molded in Assyria

with processed Beryllium by the quintillion

They cooked on symmetrical stoves

with my logo etched above the hole where they inserted the coal

And they barbecued birds to the bone

They burned incense in a Buckminster Fuller type dome

I talked to Mr. Fuller over the phone

and he said he had a contract to rebuild Rome

said he didn't want to do it alone

I told him I was busy writing poems"
First off you saying "all rappers are fake" is an unfair and untrue statement. I know several rappers personally (both unsigned talent and people who have been played on the radio) and they only speak about what's real. And what a lot of people don't understand is a LOT of what rappers speak on is their life. In the ghetto their are too many of our black people who feel like music, sports or drugs are their only way out of the ghetto. So most of the rappers we hear went through one of the other options before someone gave them their music opportunity.

Do I agree or am I a fan of those type of lyrics..... not really. But you can't point the fake finger until you know for sure.

To me real Hip Hop is music that comes from the person's soul. If you ain't got nothing to say except "This is why I'm Hot" then I'm not feeling the validity of your claim to be a true Hip Hop artist.

KRS - 1 the South Bronx - That's a perfect example of speaking on where you came from and your life experience and still being real Hip Hop.

Don't lump real MCs into the same catagory with these wack one's. In every aspect of life you will come across real and fake - that's just the way of our world in present day

I can't speak on other regions - but I'm from LA (born and raised) not all LA MCs talk about being a "gangsta" Open up your mind check out some Pharcyde, Aceyalone, Freestyle Fellowship, 2Mex..... you'll be surprised
it has to stink like wet dog
how u rap...u cant sound corny great lyrics.....i think if the rapper can change up their tempo by raping a whole verse slow or very fast like twista then theyre good

Why hip hop artist use Robotic effect on Vocals and think it sounds good?

It sounds terrible but they use it often. I'm not a hip hop listener but at work, the coworkers who control the stereo always put it on hip hop so i have to listen. and also MTV always have hip hop videos on it, sometimes i browse mtv just to see if there is anything good... so i land on hip hop videos .

What's the deal with digitally robotizing the vocals? It sounds terrible

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To be fair its not just the rap/hip hop artists do it. Synthezing voices has been around longer that rap has. Sometimes it is annoying, like that guy t pain whos enitre voice is fake. Someone told him that it would be a good idea to do this, and that person should be slapped. I agree with you on that point. But sometimes it is cool, if its only for a line or so. Much more than that, then it becomes stupid.

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thats just your opinion that it sounds terrible. Stop being so narrow minded... gosh
are u thinking of kanye west??? that song is mad good!
the only person that ever does this(and he does it on *EVERY SONG* he has) is t pain cuz he would be nothin without it. like the person above said, kanye west has a song out where he does he's the only other person i know that used it, and that was his first time
Why do heavy metal artists scream in songs and think it sounds good?

Stop generalizing a whole genre just because of a few songs (the only artist I can think of is T-Pain) you have heard.
you cant say that all do that cuz the only one that i know who does that is T-Pain..

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?

Well, my teacher has given me an impossible assignment for a debate we're going to have soon. My teacher split the class into 3 sides on what hip-hop is. 1) Culture 2) Entertainment 3) Power. I got put into entertainment. Now keep in mind that this is a DEBATE. Hip-Hop IS entertainment, but it also culture. I have to write a page about the facts and info and ideas i'm going to say during the debate; Why hip-hop is entertainment and NOT culture and NOT power. Well of COURSE hip-hop is culture because entertainment is a branch of culture, which sucks. So i'm really desperate for any ideas you may have to help me out with this. Please don't spam with comments about how hip-hop IS culture and this assignment is impossible as I already know that. Also please don't tell me to "stop being lazy and do your own work" because I do do my own work. I've just come across something that I need other people's help on;since like I said, this assignment is IMPOSSIBLE! Ugh. Please help...

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hip hop is entertainment and not culture or power because it doesnt decide who you are as a person it doesnt make you a christian or athiest or whatever... its not meant for you to change your lifestyle just because you listen to it... you could look like the bigest hick ever but you still can listen to hip hop and you dont have to change...

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entertainment =

anything eminem does is entertainment.

rap as entertainment is a form of escapism not only for the artist but for the audience as well.

escapism = entertainment.

that is why a lot of rappers have TONS of cash in videos.

lots of new, unattainable cars

hot women in very few clothes.

biiiig houses in videos.

furs

diamonds.

entertainment.

selling an image.

that is why so many young, white youths today love rap. it is so far out of their purview of experience that it has become a form of entertainment.

look at jay z.

HOVA? really? REALLY???? jehovah?? the god of rap? the god of entertainment!!! the best at what he does.

he is the king of escapism.
hip hop is meant to be entertainment but some stupid folks out there take it to seriously and make it their culture.

Real gangsters hardly make any money they die for blocks they dont own and create nasty living conditions for honest hard working citizens.
I thought My info yesterday would be helpful please take a second look at some of the keywords and people and google/yahoo them to find more detail.

I'm sure you will find something helpful there.
He said he wants you to prove how Hip hop isn't a culture or a power but has entertainment??!?!?

Sounds like he's trying to get everyone who likes Hip Hop to dislike each other opinions..even if it's an school assignment or not.

Well...it's impossible to say Hip Hop is not an culture because basically one can't do without the others......

I think you should ask this teacher what is he trying to prove or what is he trying to do in the end when all the students finally get their debates ready.

Sounds like this teacher is trying to get everyone confused on what Hip Hop really is.
Hip Hop is entertainment because it stimulates and captivates your senses. You feel the beat in the middle of your chest, you hear the rhymes of the MC and how the two just flow together, you can see the style of the clothes and the dance moves. It makes you want to move. You can take somebody that has never heard anything about hip hop, it's culture, or the influence it has on the world today, and they will be ENTERTAINED. If it didn't entertain people it would never had risen to the heights it's at today. You have to ENTERTAIN before you can INFLUENCE . It's like the teacher at the school, if he doesn't get your attention and make you interested, you will never learn. Hip Hop is entertainment with a message(sometimes), and the more people that are entertained, the more that will get the message, and the more people that get the message will lead to the message having power.
woah..this is a pretty complex assignment...

sorry...but this is BS!

unless your teach dont no nothing about hip-hop

most definately a trend/culture AND power..

diddy's one of the most powerful people in the biz
to be honest with u ur teacher did a horrible job splitting u guys up cause shes tearing down all of what hip hop is to make it into something else i think this was a thing that shouldnt have been done but all i can tell u is the only was to seperate the three is to use the failed rappers of hip hop to say its entertainment
Yea it is impossible...Im with De...I guess if you dont live the culture u could make it seem like entertainment...SO like De said try using failed rappers like Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer...Vanilla Ice didnt live what he claimed he did...so that makes him fake imo for entertainment purposes. Iono its seems to be a tuff one...Or you can focus on the suburban youth that take hip hop for a fad.

FOR HIP HOP FANS ONLY!!! (read below)?

FOR RAP/HIP-HOP FANS ONLY!!! (Read my addition below, please.)?

Ok, so here's the challenge. Think of five emcees (rappers) that come to mind whenever you think of real hip-hop. This is just a survey that let's me know how much you know about real Hip-Hop Music. Eventually, I'll tell you what I think about each of your choices and help you realize what real hip-hop is meant to be...

I'll post the results below...

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tupac

snoop

m%26amp;m

queen latifa

dre.

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hip hop is for p*ussies
mc lyte jayz 2pac biggie and rev run
Dr. Dre, TI, Eminem, Snoop Dog, Canye West
Dr. Dre

Snoop Dog

Eminem

50 cent

Jay Z
Jay-Z

Ludacris

Missy Elliot

Snoop Dogg

Busta Rhymes
Jay-Z

D.O.C.

EaZyE

Too short

Snoop Dogg

Ice-T

2-Pac

Q-Tip

Magic Mike (just kidding)
GREEN DAY

BLINK 182

ALL AMERICAN REJECTS

THE FRAY

HELOOGOODBYE!!~

I ******** WIN
Cam'ron

Three 6 Mafia

Project Pat

Kilo Ali

Jay Z

Faboulos
1. Wu-Tang Clan

2. Tupac

3. Notorious B.I.G

4. Dr. Dre

5. Puff Daddy

Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?

Ya know...I notice there's alot of people here that listen to Hip Hop style music but do they REALLY KNOW what Hip Hop is %26amp; What Rap is?!

Some people don't even know what rapping is because they say statements such as:

1."Chris Brown is a good rapper!!"

2."Akon didn't know how to rap on his last track!"

3."T-Pain %26amp; R Kelly should do a rap song together..I love those rappers!"

4."We went to the Usher rap concert..it was GREAT DUDE!"

These are all R%26amp;B artist with a Hip Hop style..that DON'T make them rappers.

Hip Hop is the Genre...Rap is the music...you see the difference?

The 4-Elements of Hip Hop:

1. Rapping(rhymes/lyrics)

2. DJ-ing

3. Graffiti (Wall/Subway Art)

4. Breakdancing

My question is why do some Hip Hop fans say R%26amp;B singers are "rappers" when it's VERY OBVIOUS they're not?

Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?girl myspace

Because... They may like rap/hip-hop but they aren't rap/hip-hop fanatics.

They don't love it like most rap/hip-hop fans do, they just listen to it without really paying attention. Those are usually the same people that love Soulja Boy and all that other mess.

But to the person above me... What in the hell are you talking about?

"Because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists?"

Lol, you are even dumber that the people that think certain R%26amp;B artists are really rappers. SMH...

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Their not real true hip hop fans that know the difference, they just followin the crowd
if they listen to it and think theyre rappers they are stupid, but if they just hear about them, igeuss since they see them collaborate with actaul emcees they think there the same even though they make obviously different music.
Yup I know the difference, Lol. Although I'm not gonna lie at first I thought T-pain was a rapper. Clearly after listening to it a couple times I could see he is just an R%26amp;B star.
because they only listen to the big hits and song played on mix stations like kiss fm.

you have to be a true hiphop connoseiur to tell the difference
The answer lies in your question young grasshopper. It is because they are hip hop "fans". They do not live the culture of hip hop, they just observe it. They picked up the catch phrase from the media and they apply it to most black music of urban origin. They are on the fringes and should not be held accountable for their ignorance of the culture-changing impact hip hop has had on the world.
they just don't have the life experience to tell the difference
lol, i dont think people are as dedicated to hip-hop as you are. It's just that they're ignorant. They like what they hear but they don't feel what they hear, if u get what i mean.
Yeah you are right

I think it's because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists.
Yeah i read some a that.there was a question on Y!A askin some of the good new rap songs . and some answers were:

- sorry blame it on me_ Akon

-Beautiful_Sean Kingston

....etc.

Why can't Hip hop lovers stand instrumental music, do they fear being alone?

As you all know, hip hop makes noise. As for rap, It seems like the people are screaming and following you. So it gives you the sense that you have company. sure this happens with anyother singing genre. but i want to talk about hip hop because hip hop streesses noise and loudness.

I wonder if people who listen to this music Never listen to instrumental music because in instrumental( no vocals)music it's all up to you to take the music and imagine things. you take more charge. In Hip hop it's all given to you, you're not alone...the rappper is throwing a stream of conversation.

I'm not talking to the kind of people like me, who listen to various music styles. I'm talking about some youths that just listen to hip hop always because it's a fad and because of peer pressure to fit in.

Why can't Hip hop lovers stand instrumental music, do they fear being alone?girly myspace

thats not true at all i love hip hop but i started on the piano along with saxaphone so no that is not a true statement

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What about the whole genre of instrumental hip hop? Records like DJ Shadow's ENDTRODUCING, anything by DJ Krish, Madlib, Metal Fingers, J. Dilla, etc?
I'm sure it does have a lot to do with age. But, I have a question for you? Why are are singling out Hip Hop lovers? What about youth that ONLY listen to Heavy Metal and Rock etc... Hardcore rock and heavy metal has A LOT of screaming! I grew up with kids that wore Led Zeppelin, Poison, ACDC shirts and were some true Heavy Metal heads ( I doubt they were listening to instrumental music in their spare time). Teens are teens period, but for some reason you are singling out Hip Hop. Why?
What? Listening to hip hop is a fad? I live in one of the richest communities in the world and go to high school, yet not a single person I know listens to hip hop. Seriously, who wants to listen to hip hop? It's full of slow beats, bad accompaniments, and rappers whose lyrics make no sense. Try listening to heavy metal - it's a lot more entertaining.

Next, you said something about hip hop being about noise and loudness. Sorry, I couldn't hear you very well over the one-note bass accompaniment, the relaxed beat, and the single rapper. Please.

Finally, you claim that hip hop lovers can't stand instrumental music. When you say this, are you making an assumption about all hip hop lovers? I presume so, since nothing else you've said has made sense. I'm no fan of hip hop myself, but you can bet your life that there's at least one person out there who likes both hip hop and instrumental music. Not that I'm for that, but I'm not for your stereotypes either. So next time you ask a question, try to make some sense.
I agree. What you're saying doesn't make much sense.
I wonder if YOU listen to Hip Hop music. This was a really biased question.

If you want instrumentals, and positivity try The Roots, and Blackeyed Peas.

If you're not going to take the time to do your homework so you'll KNOW what you're criticizing, then you should go listen to whatever you do happen to like and stop trying to instigate ignorant and racist remarks with questions like this.

Hip hop and Johnny Cash?

I was reading an interview with Chuck D where he said he considered Johnny Cash to be "hip hop". Obviously, he wasn't a rapper, but in some senses I think he was hip hop.

Eg: Slick Rick's Children's Story is considered by many to be the hip hop version of Don't Take Your Guns To Town

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raXKeQ5qF...

Or there's San Quentin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eN...

What are your thoughts? Are there any artists who you think aren't technically hip hop artists, but still embody the spirit of hip hop? Or do you think they can't be hip hop at all?

Hip hop and Johnny Cash?comment boxes for myspace

i think its evident whose young and whose not by the answers

or young and dumb i should say

johnny cash embodied the hip-hop spirit because he 1st and foremost was hassled by the po po all the time

2nd he made songs about real s hit which when it started the hiphop culture did alot more of

3rd he wore black all the damn time

my 2 cents...

today became a cash day...

thanks bonnie

i am gonna drop some non hip hop stuff on zamunda...

u have opened the floodgates

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I think that chuck D needs to put down the crack..
yeah i totally agree... (im lying so you dont look so weird)
it depends - johnny cash has quintessentially been labelled as alt-country. i can see some similarities - i.e his outspokenness and political awareness but that could also be attributed to other "country" artists

its a good question though
I like Johnny Cash he sang the blues not hip hop music as he got older and got remarried he turned to spiritual music and that was nice, he had a miserable childhood has his father favoured his brother more than him when his brother was alive, his mother was a gentle kind woman.
I wouldn't class Johnny Cash as Hip Hop but the Videos are very good and personally I would say he was one of the best C%26amp;W Artists ever born
I think that statement is a little ridiculous. Chuck's losing his mind in his old age. All forms of music share similar elements. You can pick a song by any non-hip hop artists and find a hip hop song with similar themes. There's a reason why artists get designated to specific genres. There's a big difference between being influential to hip hop and being hip hop. Johnny Cash may have been influential, but he definitely was not hip hop.

EDIT: As for an artist that isn't technically hip hop but did embody it, I would say Miles Davis (toward the end). He was heavily influenced by hip hip while he was making Doo-Bop with Easy Mo Bee. The album is technically jazz but it contains a lot of hip hop elements, and influenced a lot of jazz musicians who incorporate hip hop into their music such as Matthew Shipp and William Parker.
no
definitely not cool like on NO level
Chuck D said that because he didn't want to be seen to be enjoying stereotypical white person music: country.

Why is everyone against hip hop?

Ever since the the Dom Imus situation every one has been against hip hop saying that quote" alot of rappers use the word ho and ***** so why can't we say if anyhthing rappers should apologize too not to the basketball team but to the community period"Most of the people agreeing with this does not know what real hip hop is, never heard a real hip hop song in their life does not know the history. Hip Hop is not just about hoes, whips, chains and pimps. Hip hop is a state to me. And we have cats like common, mos def, talib kweli, mos def, the roots and nas ressurecting it from what it has become or what people make it out to be. don't get me wrong i love rock i listen to led zeppelin, nirvana, etc.I don't hear anyone getting on rock music. atleast on hip hop station they bleep the words out and certain artist have clean version to song but on DC 101 i heard a song where this guy was singing about a woman being a nasty *****%26amp; somone blowing their head off.

so please state your opinion.

Why is everyone against hip hop?music myspace

their just stupid hypocrits

majority of them didnt like hip hop, but their main beef wasnt with hip hop, its because a lot of white people feel that black people can say things and get away with it while white people cant. So they tried to crucify hip hop and in the end succeeded even though their point was irelevant and retarded.

if you do research on the history of hip hop you realize rappers were not only ETHICALLY crusifyed as Don Imus was, but they were also LEGALLY crucifyed, 2 Live Crew and N.W.A litterally had to fight iwth the government for their right to free speech. They were saying **** that they had NO idea about and did no research about it at all.

so in the end its just stupid whities talking through their assholes, everything that was comming out was ****.

Know of any hip hop like dancing that isn't hip hop? Like a mixture of hip hop and jazz?

Know of any hip hop dancing that isn't hip hop? Like a mixture of jazz and hip hop?

Know of any hip hop like dancing that isn't hip hop? Like a mixture of hip hop and jazz?myspace icons

"Roc boys" by: Jay-z

and

"Touch the sky" by: Kanye west

they are both kinda mix with jazz... I think.

Know of any hip hop like dancing that isn't hip hop? Like a mixture of hip hop and jazz?myspace background myspace.com

yeah Herbie Handcock. cataloope is one.

also Miles Davis has an album like that. UNI is a good song.

also Mos Def has a few songs like that. umi says, life time, may december, the begger, %26amp; The Panties.
I'm listening to an AMAZING song right now, its killer. If you download one thing today, then make it this, because I think that its exactly what you're looking for.

Freaks For the Festival - Rahsaan Roland Kirk

The beat in the beginning is FRESH man. Its really good, you barely can believe it was recorded in 1974. The artist himself is amazing. Look him up.

Also check out

"His Girl" and "Chicago Falcon" By The Budos Band

"Crosshairs" and "Old School" by Danger Doom

"Big Eater" by The Bad Plus

"Raid", "All Caps" and "Fancy Clown" by Madvillian

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?band myspace

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?celeb myspace myspace.com

entertainment =

anything eminem does is entertainment.

rap as entertainment is a form of escapism not only for the artist but for the audience as well.

escapism = entertainment.

that is why a lot of rappers have TONS of cash in videos.

lots of new, unattainable cars

hot women in very few clothes.

biiiig houses in videos.

furs

diamonds.

entertainment.

selling an image.

that is why so many young, white youths today love rap. it is so far out of their purview of experience that it has become a form of entertainment.

look at jay z.

HOVA? really? REALLY???? jehovah?? the god of rap? the god of entertainment!!! the best at what he does.

he is the king of escapism.
hip hop is meant to be entertainment but some stupid folks out there take it to seriously and make it their culture.

I'm sure you will find something helpful there.
He said he wants you to prove how Hip hop isn't a culture or a power but has entertainment??!?!?

Sounds like he's trying to get everyone who likes Hip Hop to dislike each other opinions..even if it's an school assignment or not.

Well...it's impossible to say Hip Hop is not an culture because basically one can't do without the others......

I think you should ask this teacher what is he trying to prove or what is he trying to do in the end when all the students finally get their debates ready.

sorry...but this is BS!

unless your teach dont no nothing about hip-hop

most definately a trend/culture AND power..

Tell me how Hip Hop and Rap sucks?

See you guys think that hip hop and rap sucks..... but that is simply not the case. Truth is that the "rappers" and entertainers you see up on t.v are House Negroes (Malcolm X speech) and their target audience is white America not black America so thats why they don't keep **** real. Now look up Immortal Technique, Akir, Rugged Man, Jedi Mind Tricks, Mos Def, and Ill Bill. After having watched some REAL hip hop and rap then I like you to insult hip hop. Because don't hate on it if you haven't heard it yet.

Search ClearWire and you'll see why it is that the Pop (not hip hop) rappers /entertainers are the ones being forced on us instead of the real artist. Now hip hop takes creativity and uniqueness. But pop is all about whose the biggest attention whore.

Tell me how Hip Hop and Rap sucks?unblock myspace

WHAT U KNOW ABOUT HIP HOP %26amp; RAP

I BET UR SOME KIND OF WEIRDO

I'M SORRY BUT RAP%26amp; HIPHOP DON'T SUCKS

Tell me how Hip Hop and Rap sucks?backgrounds for myspace myspace.com

Wrong. I think it sucks simply because that's my opinion on the subject. I couldn't care less who is rapping or hip hopping the lyrics. I dislike the whole genre. Give me some classic/hard rock/metal... anything I can rock to. I'll take that any day over anything else.
hiphop never sucks, rap on the other hand.......

People on yahoo and hip hop?

Couple things

First bob is going to teach you little something bout hip hop, not just the music, but the culture.

Second, Why are people on yahoo so ignorant about Hip Hop? If you dont like hip hop thats fine, bob respects that, but you guys obviously dont respect bob. If you did people wouldnt go to questions like Whos your favorite rapper? and post rap is crap.

Or people like this

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

would not be saying things like that, i mean saying things about someone and smashing on them is one thing, this guy is talking about killing people he dont agree with. Who you gonna blame for the things hes saying and why hes like this, you guys cant do the usual and say its hip hops fault cause this guy obviously dont listen to hip hop.

Dont get bob wrong some hip hop like the mainstream music we have today is garbage, but some people cross the line and go all out. Why do you do this?

People on yahoo and hip hop?cool myspace

I wish you hadn't spoken in third person. It makes your rant sound kind of odd. None the less, I can't say that I don't agree with you. I mean, what do you expect? This is yahoo answers and there's gonna be some people like that. Hip hop has such a bad rep and and it comes from the ones who never even know what REAL hip hop is. Mainstream is, like you said, garbage and that's what people base their opinions upon. Sad, isn't it? But, on the other hand, who really gives a ****? They wouldn't understand anyways. Hip Hop is nothing to them. They never have and may never will understand the culture.

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that one guy is like hitler killing the jews...next thing u kno bob, ULL BE A CONCENTRATION CAMP...jk
I hate rap and hip hop, and if you like it, I do not respect your choice in music, because I find it and you to be idiotic. The music glorifies poverty stricken ghetto low life loser culture. Get a life!

Buy or sell: Hip hop is a nation?

there are VERY deep rifts in hip hop today, and it seems like there's a lot of hate today between hip hop fan's over genere's, regional styles, and basic types of hip hop...this would leave me to believe that hip hop is not a nation, (consider how much time we spend on here arguing over music)....and yet, (for me) today was one of those day's that really put that view in question....As most of us know, today marks the third anniversary of ODB's (rip) death, and I turned on my radio today to see if they would even mention it and *all day long* they were bangin song's like "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" and "brooklyn Zoo" (I even heard the ODB tribute song)..and It made me really stop and think.."At the end of the day: Is hip hop a nation?"

Buy or sell: Hip hop is a nation?myspace graphics

BUY

hip hop is a nation........just look at our nation, dont we have alot of rifts? arent there issues with different backgrounds and ethnicities over basic values, and traditions...the competition, the common love, the differences that link everyone together is what makes hip hop a nation..like any other nation, everyone will not always agree on everything

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No. Though the splits are usually over turfs and crews, I think the true rift comes from Artistic Creativity and Street-Cred. Back in the day, of you were a good rapper, you were a good rapper and people dug you, from the hood to the suburbs. Now rappers are allowed to suck if people deem them street-credible. True artists have gone a whole different direction because of the pollution in the street-cred rap.
I didn't know 2day was the anniversary of ODB's death RIP...

I think Hip-hop is a nation... I agree with 8-1... There are always going 2 be plenty of opinions %26amp; disagreements in our culture or should I say nation... Hip-hop is like the most diverse music genre %26amp; even most diverse cultures...
yea it a nation. but Limewire gonna kill it. many great rappers just dont give a **** about it anymore, because pricks on Limewire download it for free. Limewire are the Klansmen of not just Hip Hop, but all of music. Say I'm full of B.S. if you want, but Limewire and other cheap free downloading websites are the Hitler, Napoleon, and Bin Laden of music. Peace Yall.

Has Corporate America dragged the word hip hop through the mud and ruined the entire meaning of it?

Just think of all that is being labeled "hip hop" that aint really hip hop... just to make money...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en...

^^^^^^^that aint hip hop^^^^^^^^^^

Hip hop dance is a term that is always being used too...but unless you are doing some helicopters or backspins...you really aint hip hop dancing....

I just think that it is crazy that anything with a little bass and rhythm is considered hip hop...While completely ignoring...the true elements of hip hop...

What is your opinion?

Has Corporate America dragged the word hip hop through the mud and ruined the entire meaning of it?myspace.com music

i think that corporate america uses the term hip-hop loosely and completely ignores the 4 elements. they consider the 4 elements to be money, chains, hoes, and fashion. all of these so called rappers are turning into entrepeneurs and not focusing on their music. look at 50 cent, he has so much stuff going on with all that g-unit bullshit, he cant put out any good music (i never really liked his ish tho). you cant forget about jay-z, too, when he put out the black album, you could tell he put the time into it, and he shelled out a pretty good album (not a classic imo). after that, he had his "second coming" kingdom come, probably one of his wackest albums yet (lost ones is ill tho). i think as long as mc's are dedicated to their music, and not letting the nonsense of the media affect them, then i think they can be great.

Has Corporate America dragged the word hip hop through the mud and ruined the entire meaning of it?www myspaces com myspace.com

I think it has. Look at how similar the music is and how much the songs talk about the same subjects.
to them...soulja boy is hip hop...gives them a easier target to blame
I Agree Corporate America Haz ****** Up Hip Hop Datz Why I Mostl Listen 2 Underground Hip Hop Harry Iz Not A Good Look

Did Ya Hear Bout Soulja Boy Gettin Nominated For A Grammy

S.M.H
now its just a hook and bad rap skills
Yup, they have. It's not just hip hop, anything that makes money will be taken over by suits and sell outs.

I think the record buying public have to take a big part of the blame too - it's all about supply and demand. We live in a culture where you're made to feel like a leper if you don't keep up with what everyone else is doing. That needs to change.

People need to stop being so hypnotised by advertising and start using their brains. Everything has to be so instant now, that that mentality has even seeped into music. Now, instead of buying quality music that needs a bit of time and effort to get into it and fully appreciate it, people seem to just want a quick fix that they can dance to and sing along with. These people need to wake up and start using their brains.
Has Hip Hop chosen to go the commercial route for the money? Hip Hop has grown up into the billions around the world, every element has it's own commercial aspect. Corporate America was given a license to drag commercial hip hop through what ever mud it so choses. True Hip Hop -the culture- can't be found because those of us who know where it is and when it is aren't telling. Let them have Soulja Boy, or the Cha Cha slide for a McDonalds commercial. Underground is only found under the streets in the heart of every city where corporate america can't and for that matter won't venture. Ask Jay-Z, when the last time he went to and underground freestyle battle; Ok, now ask Murs, or Ant, or Little Brother, or Devin the Dude, for the matter ask Jadakiss or any member of the Wu.
yep hip hop started as a movement, now its a marketing scheme. but its the peoples fault for it. corporate america only sells what the people buy. for whatever reason, people like this minstrel show rap. if the people stop buying these ringtones and supporting these garbage rappers on the radio and videos, then it will change. but the full blame cant be on corporate america. its the peoples fault
'We commute to computers

Spirits stay mute while you eagles spread rumors

We survivalists, turned to consumers

To get by.. just to get by

Just to get by, just to get by'

..that third line says it all. Peace to Talib Kweli.

Watch these two hip hop throw back videos...tell me your opinions?

I was spending some time on youtube and I was watching some of my favorite hip hop music videos. I found two in particular that in retrospect, predicted a lot of the problems that hip hop is facing today.

Watch these two videos and tell me what you think their similarities are. Who do you believe they are referring to in these songs? Is it anyone in particular? Although I am not a huge fan of some southern rap, I hear people saying that south killed hip hop, I don't believe that's true, especially after watching these videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdWOoL31I...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF2C051Cu...

Both of these hip hop groups are hip hop genuses. They saw what was coming a long time ago.

For those of you not familiar with real hip hop, please take the time to watch these videos and listen to what they are saying to understand more. For those of you who think rap is all about guns, sex, drugs, and exploitation, you must LISTEN.

Thanks

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You always bring me back to back in the days! I love it!...lol. I was just bumping The Roots today.

When those tracks came out it was already beginning about all the sex, and money, not as bad it is now, but it was there. They called artist out on it. I remember Nas was one of them too. I remember in one interview he said he was embaressed of following the commercial, rapping about money and women. It took him a while to see it.

De La Soul, and The Roots are 2 legendary groups, who have all marched to the beat of their own drum. They did not care of what sold more, all they did was make music that was real to them. They were both unique in their own ways. It is not surprising that they saw where hip hop was going.

i love the first part of the verse from The Roots"

" Yo, lost generation, fast pace nation

World population confront their frustration

The principles of true hip-hop have been forsaken

It's all contractual, and about money making

Pretend-to-be cats don't seem to know their limitations

Exact replication and false representation

You wanna be a man, then stand your own"

So true!!!!

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I was feeling that roots and de la soul.it took me back in the day when music was really good and not this crap you hear today
It's ironic you post What They Do. It's been my replay song for the month of August. I have listened to that song everyday this month! It's amazing how music videos are still like that and that video was made way back in 1996. I guess we aren't progressing. The De La Soul video was dope too.

If you want a return to the late 80s and early 90's you gotta listen to Little Brother. In my opinion they are the De La Soul or A Tribe Called Quest of the new millenium. They are called Little Brother because they are the Little Brothers of pioneering hip-hop MC's and groups (De La, ATCQ, KRS, etc.). One line I like from them is, "Stakes is high, so I eat at Taco Bell now". How many groups or MC's would give a shoutout to pioneering groups like that?

Listen to LB!
The Roots! De La!! Oh, my heart is happy.

These two groups, and others, did see that the cookie cutter was on overdrive when it came to "vision" of hip-hop. Same ol', same old, rented out the same damn mansion, same damn video shots, same everything. The message got drowned out and the money look became brighter.

Bad Boy and SoSo Def did a lot of slick videos back then. I think they are talking about them. I think Tupac first slick one was I Get Around and then it took off from there.
it is amazing how true this is now more than back then. i dont believe that hip hop can die, but it shows what happens to something that is original and beautiful and esoteric in nature, when it is exposed to a mass market and exploited for money and mass appeal.

Critics say that hip hop is nothing but violent and misogynist lyrics, but they have only become that way when trying to appeal to them. When it was just among us, it was on another level. It shows us who the ones are that value violence and disrespect towards women. cuz its not the hip-hoppers.
Posdnuos is one of top ten favorite MCs.

Check this video by De La Soul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntQUZ7jpK...
nah homie. i dont feel like clickin on them links and i sho dont feel like readin all that s hit you typed. preciate cha

Another Hip-Hop/Reggaeton question... :)?

Why is it whenever some one has a negative opinion towards a hip-hop artist/album, the first thing that comes out of these kids mouths is that "well he has more money than you right?" or "so ,the n*gga got money, so how's he whack?" what the f*ck does your bank account have to do with you ability as a song writer? Some of the best beats i've heard have been in train stations by guys playing buckets with 4 dollars in change thrown in front of them. Is it that you guys completely ignore the power of marketing, social engineering and payola? I'm a minority myself and it's so sad seeing high school age kids arguing about who has more money than who, this **** is even being debated HEAVILY on hip-hop stations. "This n*gga has more money than this n*gga" and vice versa. I don't say all this cause I dont like hip-hop, but more because I'm sick and tired of the billions of dollars hip-hop and reggaeton generate being used as a half-assed attempt to validate them musically.

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Because people have a hard time separating material success, fame, and artistic integrity. A lot of people in hip hop especially come from impoverished circumstances. So, they don't have the forethought nor maturity to understand that dollar signs and fame don't have anything to do with artistic contribution. Many of them believe that the money and fame means that they're at the forefront of artisic expression. They believe falsely that just because they move a lot of units and they're rich that they are the tightest thing out. A lot of classic hip hop albums didn't sell huge numbers but they're artistic impact is felt for years. A lot of respected rappers/hip-hop artists aren't millionaires, but they've influenced a whole generation. Moreover, an artist is more free to express themselves when the constraints of pressure to please the masses are eased. I being a member of the music buying public can tell the difference between an artist and a hustler trying to sell an image.

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i've never heard anyone say that... ever i have friends who listen to all rock, and friends who listen to all rock, they slam eachothers music but ive never heard HE HAS MORE MONEY, or anything to that matter, and if they want to listen to with someone who has more money more power to them, otherwise its not that big of deal people these days worry about to much. the best music is music u can blare in your car, thats not on the radio, that makes your subs rattle the trunk of your car and get heads to turn whether it be rock or rap or blue grass
as i like both genres, most artists are i see are in it for money. the music industry is cruel. i mean to sing you have to have looks or talk about sex, drugs and alcohol. nobody seems to appreciate anything else. i hate it when singers change to gain fans. i used to think that Avril Lavigne had talent until she became a "crowd pleaser" and sang songs like "Girlfriend". plus, half of the hip-hop songs i see now are the same. they all talk about drugs and who has more money. and many reggaeton songs i see are for chicks. they go on about how they want some girl and will do anything to get them. i prefer songs like "Caile" by Tito "El Bambino". i find Calle 13 to be hilarious too. the hip-hop i like is light in a way. i like Bow Wow and Chris Brown. i am very picky about rap. i like some Snoop Dogg, Will Smith and Eminem. like i said hardly anything is real but whenever i'm out of the country i see people on the streets who can actually sing but dont have a chance in a big business because of age or money or lyrics.

Hip-hop today...?

Hip-hop today is trash... T.I., Yung Joc, Kanye West, Lil Wayne? I'm sure everyone knows today that if Big L was alive he'd put these "rappers" to shame... Most people today can't even name the four elements of hip-hop... Hip-hop dance isn't real hip-hop either.... no one gives real credit to the bboys.... how come most of the youth today don't want to listen real lyricists like Masta Killa, Inspectah Deck, Aesop Rock, and MF Doom? At least the some "gangsta" rap before 2001 contained a little substance, none of this weak bling bling, hoes, sex, and money bs.

Anyone seen the video on youtube? Hip-hop today is not hip-hop... it's ****-hop.

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I agree. Only these kid's also might not have the sources to listen to these guys. I mean those aren't the type of guys to get their name out there. MF Doom did have his whole Adult Swim thing though. But it was still far from main stream music.

But I agree. Only I'd take Kanye West off. He might be a little lazy on some rhymes, but when he's on his game he can be up there. He's no where near at the bottom like Yung Joc.
i agree
ummmmmm...iono man.

i love hiphop. visionaries, hiero, mf doom, typical cats, common, talib, etc.

and kanyes not that bad either, although he was better on college dropout, his next album will still prolly be better than the other ish they play on the radio.

and yes, big l would murder a lot of mcs, but thats just cus hes big l, he was one of the greatest.

but about the bboy thing, i love bboys/girls, most of my friends are hiphop heads/sneakerheads/bboys/bgirls. and i love the whole hiphop culture, which does include breaking and graffiti by the way.

but i know what you mean rap (not hiphop) on the radio is total bs nowadays
masta inspectah hell ya bro i feel u on every note u said

hip hop today is bullshit but the real hip hop will never die masta and inspectah both have new albums out wu got another album comin raekwon got an instant classic comin ghost put out like 6 cds this and last year method had an album plus all the underground wu family members like cilvaringz from the killa beez that album is straig fire bronze nazareth all that is great music just that nobody supports it but just as how the rebel ins said he survived without any commercial support and so will hip hop some how itll save itself im not worried
The strength of flow %26amp; lyrics mixed with real sounds :

- Masta Ace

- KRS One

- O.C

- Talib Kweli

- Mos Def

This Hip Hop is still alive but not not bankable enough in regards of music industry wills!!

Keep it for ourselves %26amp; keep on enjoying this like sun on our skins ...
is this a question?

go on some backpacker rap forum if you want to complain about how hip hop is bad. cause everyone already knows.

The Hip Hop generation. Social movement?

Do you believe that the hip hop generation can be classified as a social movement? There are many Hip Hop driven organizations that are focused on giving the Hip Hop generation a platform for voicing their problems and an infrastructure for creating the solutions. By coming together and voicing their frustrations and problems in a public setting, youth from these urban communities are able to address the issues that are troubling their communities, and find ways of alleviating the main sources for problems. Since Hip Hop can been found almost everywhere in the media, do you feel it is a social movement?

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I could see the following in the website:-

Organization dedicated to adopting a political agenda for the Hip-Hop Generation and fostering youth involvement in local, state, and federal electoral politics.

Naturally it is a social movement.

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it can be. for example, in the bay area, the hyphy movement is a crazy new dance and vans are spreading. this is a very good point for people who dont listen to rap to read.
yes you could, and it sounds like you r a embassador for this "movement" is there a website that i can go to for a hiphop meeting or can it be just going to a concert? or can me %26amp; my friends listen to it on the radio to become enlightened? we should also play hiphop in Iraq so they will stop killing over there

Hip hop/Rap fans; read this?

Ok, I know many people have done this before me, but I'm going to do it anyway. Why do people hate hip hop/rap. I mean, I understand if you don't like it, sure! That's completely exceptable, but when you start demeaning it and making fun of the people who really like it, that's when it starts getting out of hand. Listen to this: In less than 10 minutes, I have found over 100 posts/comments/replies saying (in one way or another) that hip hop sucks, hip hop is dead, hip hop is lame, gay etc. And that's IN THE RAP/HIP HOP SECTION! Wow, eh? Yahoo answers gives us our very own rap topic, and we can't even escape the critism! I just don't get it! We don't criticise the music you guys listen to, so why do you do it to us? Why can't we both listen to the music we want to? We don't have to conform to what you want. So please, for all you "Hip Hop Haters", tell me why? Prove me wrong! Prove to me that hip hop/rap, along with the people who listen to it, deserve this!

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I agree 100%. Music is all about taste. So if I like one kind of music, I listen to it. That's all about it. It doesn't mean I should go about bad-mouthing other kinds of music or people who listen to them. It is just uncalled for. Keep listening and discussing your favorite music buddy :-)

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I was gunna say the same thing
welcome to yahoo answers where shiitz like that happenz. it is really annoying, but wat can we do? they're just haterz who have nuttin else better to do.
Most of them haters say this "Hip Hop is pure Drugs, Sex, and Violence"

Why do people hate Hip HoP??

It aint dead and it aint gay.

SO STOP HATING.

I don't like Country but i don't go around telling people that it sucks and that its gay.
It's just the dumb @sses on here that have run outta things to do.
Yea I dont hate on those ppl who like heavy metal country or otha genres of music!! wat gives them the rite 2 hate on us???? Thats sum bull crap....%26amp; plus rap is rap i wish sumbody would change all the rappers we hav 2day!! plus dont nobody listen 2 da lyrics no way unless they lookin 4 a reason 2 hate!! man they need 2 calm down!!! Who da freak r they 2 say that hip hop is dead???? or rap has gone down a hole?? Who r they nobody!!! i wanna see them go into a studio %26amp; do wat a rapper on a track %26amp; sell millions of records!!! lemme calm down deucez..%26amp; 2 da person above me %26amp; under me i respect u soo much 4 wat u typed that sounds so real...rappers try they hardest 2 plz us. %26amp; its all about ur taste. leave it at that. %26amp; ppl need 2 stop stereotypin its like talkin bout black ppl u see one of em on tv killin sumbody that does not mean we all like that......its all about they character..
Everyone see all these commercial rappers rapping about stupid stuff and getting money and living good lives for something everyone can do. Than they start to stereotype all rap music even though some of it is deep and is worth while listening to.
its just that they dont understand what its about. they wont take the time to hear what people are really saying (well in the good rap songs by real rappers) its gonna always be an issue for haters to try and cut rappers down by saying they are demeaning and **** when they dont know what they are talking about. if a woman is affended its probably cause she feels she is what they say. im a woman and im not affended by anything in the rap i listen to. f*u*c*k em
Yes I agree.

If they don't like the music turn off the radio

If they don't like the artist don't buy the CD

If they dont like music video turn off the TV
i read someone say the only people that listen to rap are small minded. i think the only people that are small minded are the ones that can't except a genre different from the one they like. and so they bash it. they're stupid...
AND SO? WHY ARE THE HATERS NOT RESPONDING?... OH, I KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROVE WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO PROVE. THUS THEY FEEL STUPID!
OK the people are just haters cause hip hop rap makes more money in their sleep then rock and pop,country combine.
i have better idea. why those who love rap/hip-hop and those who love rock/metal get together and start discussing about their music. and i meant serious people, who know what rap and hip/hop and rock music is about. what you think? i know somehow i have feeling YQ/A won't make it or will it?
It's because the people that nay-say hip hop are either racist, or having never delved deep into the realm of hip hop. I mean lets be honest, if you only listened to the radio or MTV, the main picture of hip hop you're going to get is glorification of material items, degrading women, robbing, fighting, alligning in gangs, narcissism, it's mainly garbage. And that's from a true lover of hip hop. And apparently they're too stubborn to realize hip hop is more than it's commercialized ambassadors. So they're wrong.... they're stubborn and ignorant, but people like 50 Cent don't really help the case of hip hop heads yah know?
I'm not a very big fan of Hip Hop, but I do admit that some Hip Hop music are good music. However, some of the reason why I'm not a big fan of it is because 1) its too loud, 2) a lot of them are very monotonic, if you try to play some Hip Hop music on piano, it would just be a single note repeating itself over and over again. 3) some ideas are too violent or sexual~ Therefore, as they cannot stop you from loving Hip Hop, you also cannot stop them from hating it.

What is the role of Hip Hop in society today?

What are your views on Hip Hop and how it is portrayed in todays generation? What are the advantages and disadvantages of Hip Hop in America? In what ways does/doesn't it benefit our society? Which is the real issue, Hip Hop or the artists (in Hip Hop) and the message they deliver?

Personally I believe that the artists in Hip Hop should be held somewhat responsible as well as the consumers that buy their music. It is possible that Hip Hop can be used for good... There are a lot of artists that talk about the problems in the streets and it is portrayed in their songs...But rarely do they give the solution to those problems. These artists whether it's hip hop, country or rock music are no better than a news reporter because all they report is negativity...So if you're always around negativity and used to always hearing negativity then most likely the way you think will be negative.

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Hip hop can have a role but mainstream hip hop chooses the road of ignorance instead of having a voice like P.E. or X-Clan did.

Unfortunalty the images of hip hop today are of ignorance.

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I THINK THE ROLE THAT HIP HOP PLAYS IN SOCIETY IS VERY LARGE IN THE GAY CUMMUNITYS MOSTLY.. #1 FOR GAY CLUBS AND BARS ACROSS AMERICA
the message is be proud of being a violent felon, and sire illegitimate children
The message is being proud of sucking at life. having no talent and making millions of dollars for it. being really materialistic. sadly people are sheep and will continue buying this crap....

What makes hip hop real hop hop?

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What makes hip hop is variety. And we need to have the LL COOL J , the Common's , the 50 cent gangsta thing and the Kanye West.

People who say hip hop is real and not fake i think they are not to judge. Rappers are poets/reporters/entertainers and as long as they are being true to themselves fully then thats real hiphop.

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"And why do people say hip hop is dead? I mean every rapper is basically saying the same thing"

-You just answered your own question; where is the originality in rappers speaking the same things in all of their songs?

" I mean, "gangstas" shoot people, get shot, have alotta sex, and go to clubs and do dances that consist of snapping fingers and shifting their bodies very slightly"

A.) The songs have to degrade women AT LEAST twice

B.) The songs have to use a cuss word AT LEAST 10 times

C.) The songs have to include the n word AT LEAST once

D.) The songs have to mention bein' IN DA club!

Canibus, "The best of Bis orbitally rearanged

Mono atomic elements, with a deft intelligence

The highest professorship, my English etiquette

compels me to not say it if I can't spell it b**ch

My circularised 3rd Eye, sees all

Atlantis was surrounded by 4 sea walls

I read one-fourth of the Library of Alexandria

before it was burnt to the floor

I wish I could've learned more

about the shapes of the sacred geometry they used to draw

They were new millennium but Euclidian in form

ancient in many ways but not nearly as old

Carved from Egyptian gold molded in Assyria

with processed Beryllium by the quintillion

They cooked on symmetrical stoves

with my logo etched above the hole where they inserted the coal

And they barbecued birds to the bone

They burned incense in a Buckminster Fuller type dome

I talked to Mr. Fuller over the phone

and he said he had a contract to rebuild Rome

said he didn't want to do it alone

Do I agree or am I a fan of those type of lyrics..... not really. But you can't point the fake finger until you know for sure.

KRS - 1 the South Bronx - That's a perfect example of speaking on where you came from and your life experience and still being real Hip Hop.

Don't lump real MCs into the same catagory with these wack one's. In every aspect of life you will come across real and fake - that's just the way of our world in present day

Sunday, November 29, 2009

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Hip Hop is getting treated unfairly?

Hip-hop or rap?

Would you consider rap/hip hop the new pop?

Hip Hop Culture - The Uncle Tom dilemma?

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Why hip hop artist use Robotic effect on Vocals and think it sounds good?

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?

FOR HIP HOP FANS ONLY!!! (read below)?

Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?

Why can't Hip hop lovers stand instrumental music, do they fear being alone?

Hip hop and Johnny Cash?

Why is everyone against hip hop?

Know of any hip hop like dancing that isn't hip hop? Like a mixture of hip hop and jazz?

Impossible Debate on Hip-Hop NEED HELP!!!?

Tell me how Hip Hop and Rap sucks?

People on yahoo and hip hop?

Buy or sell: Hip hop is a nation?

Has Corporate America dragged the word hip hop through the mud and ruined the entire meaning of it?

Watch these two hip hop throw back videos...tell me your opinions?

Another Hip-Hop/Reggaeton question... :)?

Hip-hop today...?

The Hip Hop generation. Social movement?

Hip hop/Rap fans; read this?

What is the role of Hip Hop in society today?

What makes hip hop real hop hop?

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